There are so many businesses in town will not take you, um … the dentist won’t take you if you’ve got a dental card [from social assistance]. Optometrists will not take you if you’re receiving social assistance because they don’t make enough money….It’s very, ah, it’s disheartening and it’s humiliating when you go into ask for a service or ask for help and they say no I’m sorry we don’t, we don’t accept people on social assistance, we don’t accept people on welfare.